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		<title>By: Manoj Verma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manoj Verma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 03:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aditya

Dear Aditya, its really heartening to see ur remark regarding comparing Army Officers with the one from Indian Police Services.
Let me narrate a very beautiful story of one of my Retd. Collegue, Who joined army in the year 1967 as a Jawan, He was just an Middle Standard passed. In his unit he was made helper(Sahayak) of the C.O. And did his best to please the said C.O, while as per his collegues he was below average in every thing else except Pschophancy. Now see the twist in the luck same C.O. was made the President of S.S.B. Merrut (which got disband later on). 
Same C.O. got that Jawan recommended for ACC commission from his unit and in S.S.B. interview.
And that Jawan hence became an Army Officer.

And in your words that guy is equivalent to IPS officers like Kiran Bedi?
In another instance an C.O. of a unit, whose son was so much poor in his studies that he got failed thrice in his matriculation exam. Than his father did a trick and got his maticulation examination centre in some interior place in Himachal Pradesh, And as usual with the help of unfair means the guy cleared matriculation exam. And now his great father got him in Army and in his unit as a jawan and after three years that guy became the officer through A.C.C. Commission.
Now in your idea that guy is also equivalent to IPS??
  And i can narrate thousand of incidences like this. Now what can of behave u can expect from these undeserving guys?</description>
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<p>Dear Aditya, its really heartening to see ur remark regarding comparing Army Officers with the one from Indian Police Services.<br />
Let me narrate a very beautiful story of one of my Retd. Collegue, Who joined army in the year 1967 as a Jawan, He was just an Middle Standard passed. In his unit he was made helper(Sahayak) of the C.O. And did his best to please the said C.O, while as per his collegues he was below average in every thing else except Pschophancy. Now see the twist in the luck same C.O. was made the President of S.S.B. Merrut (which got disband later on).<br />
Same C.O. got that Jawan recommended for ACC commission from his unit and in S.S.B. interview.<br />
And that Jawan hence became an Army Officer.</p>
<p>And in your words that guy is equivalent to IPS officers like Kiran Bedi?<br />
In another instance an C.O. of a unit, whose son was so much poor in his studies that he got failed thrice in his matriculation exam. Than his father did a trick and got his maticulation examination centre in some interior place in Himachal Pradesh, And as usual with the help of unfair means the guy cleared matriculation exam. And now his great father got him in Army and in his unit as a jawan and after three years that guy became the officer through A.C.C. Commission.<br />
Now in your idea that guy is also equivalent to IPS??<br />
  And i can narrate thousand of incidences like this. Now what can of behave u can expect from these undeserving guys?</p>
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		<title>By: Aditya</title>
		<link>http://www.aseemn.org/posts/is-this-our-indian-army/comment-page-2/#comment-48265</link>
		<dc:creator>Aditya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The incident in Kolkata was manufactured by Calcutta Police. The police personnel wrongly arrested two Majors of the army, in order to extort money. When they realised they are army personnel, these policemen (of below IPS rank, and thus not equivalent to army officers), mistreated them. When the Army authorities arrived, and the jawans saw their officers had been bashed up, they taught the Calcutta cops a lesson. 

I can completely understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incident in Kolkata was manufactured by Calcutta Police. The police personnel wrongly arrested two Majors of the army, in order to extort money. When they realised they are army personnel, these policemen (of below IPS rank, and thus not equivalent to army officers), mistreated them. When the Army authorities arrived, and the jawans saw their officers had been bashed up, they taught the Calcutta cops a lesson. </p>
<p>I can completely understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Archana</title>
		<link>http://www.aseemn.org/posts/is-this-our-indian-army/comment-page-2/#comment-48246</link>
		<dc:creator>Archana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The respect that I have for my Indian army is beyond compare. May be I&#039;ve not respected my own elders as much as I have always respected my guardians(Indian army)which you are. Being a girl I live every moment of my life dreaming of dieing a death of martyr(if I&#039;m allowed to). People call me crazy for having fallen in love with my guardians(whom I call my guardian angels).But I know very well that I&#039;m not. Loving our protectors means to love our country our mother land for whom her numerous sons &amp; daughters sacrificed their lives with smiling faces. They never expected anything in return to their selfishless services to their mother land because the relation between an army officer and the country is that of a mother and child. my heart cries the thousand times when an ungrateful people trie to speak against my pretty guardian angels. They do not even have the rights to say that they call themselves as humanbeings with lots of emotions and feelings. Seriously when people cannot respect the worth of an armyofficer why can not they themselves march till the borders, pitch tents and guard themselves and their families? why do they want to remain curled in their blankets like scary cats? when you cannot be a guardian and substitute them then donn&#039;t even dare to spread false alligations against my angels.
I want to ignore the misconducts of few officers for what the others have been doing for the motherland, such rotten apples can be disposed and forgotten. My love for my angels is as much as I love my God. God created us our mothers nurtured us &amp; our angels are still protecting us every moment spilling their blood for the sake of selfish people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The respect that I have for my Indian army is beyond compare. May be I&#8217;ve not respected my own elders as much as I have always respected my guardians(Indian army)which you are. Being a girl I live every moment of my life dreaming of dieing a death of martyr(if I&#8217;m allowed to). People call me crazy for having fallen in love with my guardians(whom I call my guardian angels).But I know very well that I&#8217;m not. Loving our protectors means to love our country our mother land for whom her numerous sons &amp; daughters sacrificed their lives with smiling faces. They never expected anything in return to their selfishless services to their mother land because the relation between an army officer and the country is that of a mother and child. my heart cries the thousand times when an ungrateful people trie to speak against my pretty guardian angels. They do not even have the rights to say that they call themselves as humanbeings with lots of emotions and feelings. Seriously when people cannot respect the worth of an armyofficer why can not they themselves march till the borders, pitch tents and guard themselves and their families? why do they want to remain curled in their blankets like scary cats? when you cannot be a guardian and substitute them then donn&#8217;t even dare to spread false alligations against my angels.<br />
I want to ignore the misconducts of few officers for what the others have been doing for the motherland, such rotten apples can be disposed and forgotten. My love for my angels is as much as I love my God. God created us our mothers nurtured us &amp; our angels are still protecting us every moment spilling their blood for the sake of selfish people.</p>
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		<title>By: Aarunesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aarunesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Aseem,
1. GREAT TO SEE YOU AND SOME OTHERS ARE QUITE AWARE BUT SUCH POWERFULL WORDS WILL DECREASE THE ALREADY DIEING NUMBER OF ASPIRANTS JOINING THE FORCES, EVEN IF ONE PERSON CHANGES HIS MIND READING YOUR BLOG LOOKING AT THE CURRENT SITUATION IT WILL BE A GREAT LOSS.
2. I AM SURE EVERYBODY SHOUD BE GIVEN A CHOICE TO SERVE THE ARMY BUT THAT CAN HAPPEN IN ISRAEL ONLY, WITH A VAST COUNTRY LIKE OURS WE DONT NEED EVERYONE IN THE ARMY AND THE SECURITY AGENCIES WILL BE IN A SOUP TRACKING TRAINED BRAINS PLANNING DISTRUCTION ACROSS THE NATION AS WE ALL KNOW EVERYBODY IN INDIA IS NOT A PATRIOT.
3. WITH A MAN STANDING AT -40 DEGREES 24/7 YOU CANNOT THINK HE WILL BE NORMAL, AND IF SOMEBODY WAS A VICTIM OF FEW JAWANS THEN LOOK AT THE HISTORY THAT HOW MANY WERE KILLED BY OUR ON PEOPLE PLAYING SPY GAMES IN THE VALLEY.. THE COIN HAS TWO SIDES.
4. FOR ALL WHO WISH TO STILL CARRY ON THE BLAME GAME PLEASE DO SO BUT REMEMBER WE ARE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY NOT PRACTICE IT.

5. THE INDIAN ARMY IS THE MOST RESPECTFUL ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD WITH 100,S OF LANGUAGES AND RELIGION THEY ALL WEAR GREEN. STATISTICS HAVE PROVED THAT THE ARMY STILL STANDS THE LEAST CORRUPTED ORG... 
6. IN A COUNTRY WHERE STATES ARE RAGING A WAR AGAINST EACH OTHER 70% OF POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT, EDUCATION IS ONE OF THE FASTEST SELLING PRODUCT TO FOOL STUDENTS, INTERNATIONAL MANUFACTURING FIRMS GETTING IN INDIA FOR PRODUCTION WHICH OTHERWISE MEANS POLLUTION, WITH CRAP SHOWS ON TELIVISION KILLING OUR VALUES SELFRESPECT &amp; CULTURE AND A NEVERENDING LIST OF MOTHER LAND BEING KILLED..... I THINK WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO MARKET ON ESTEEMED BLOGS LIKE YOURS SIR.

IRONY... Three ARMY men who lost their life for our Nation get their little pictures on the 4th page of The Tribune and the person who made 200 scores in an English game(cricket) gets place at the front page. The newspapers are the picture of the society, Is this what we value ?

WARM REGARDS
THAKUR AARUNESH
aarunesh@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Aseem,<br />
1. GREAT TO SEE YOU AND SOME OTHERS ARE QUITE AWARE BUT SUCH POWERFULL WORDS WILL DECREASE THE ALREADY DIEING NUMBER OF ASPIRANTS JOINING THE FORCES, EVEN IF ONE PERSON CHANGES HIS MIND READING YOUR BLOG LOOKING AT THE CURRENT SITUATION IT WILL BE A GREAT LOSS.<br />
2. I AM SURE EVERYBODY SHOUD BE GIVEN A CHOICE TO SERVE THE ARMY BUT THAT CAN HAPPEN IN ISRAEL ONLY, WITH A VAST COUNTRY LIKE OURS WE DONT NEED EVERYONE IN THE ARMY AND THE SECURITY AGENCIES WILL BE IN A SOUP TRACKING TRAINED BRAINS PLANNING DISTRUCTION ACROSS THE NATION AS WE ALL KNOW EVERYBODY IN INDIA IS NOT A PATRIOT.<br />
3. WITH A MAN STANDING AT -40 DEGREES 24/7 YOU CANNOT THINK HE WILL BE NORMAL, AND IF SOMEBODY WAS A VICTIM OF FEW JAWANS THEN LOOK AT THE HISTORY THAT HOW MANY WERE KILLED BY OUR ON PEOPLE PLAYING SPY GAMES IN THE VALLEY.. THE COIN HAS TWO SIDES.<br />
4. FOR ALL WHO WISH TO STILL CARRY ON THE BLAME GAME PLEASE DO SO BUT REMEMBER WE ARE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY NOT PRACTICE IT.</p>
<p>5. THE INDIAN ARMY IS THE MOST RESPECTFUL ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD WITH 100,S OF LANGUAGES AND RELIGION THEY ALL WEAR GREEN. STATISTICS HAVE PROVED THAT THE ARMY STILL STANDS THE LEAST CORRUPTED ORG&#8230;<br />
6. IN A COUNTRY WHERE STATES ARE RAGING A WAR AGAINST EACH OTHER 70% OF POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT, EDUCATION IS ONE OF THE FASTEST SELLING PRODUCT TO FOOL STUDENTS, INTERNATIONAL MANUFACTURING FIRMS GETTING IN INDIA FOR PRODUCTION WHICH OTHERWISE MEANS POLLUTION, WITH CRAP SHOWS ON TELIVISION KILLING OUR VALUES SELFRESPECT &amp; CULTURE AND A NEVERENDING LIST OF MOTHER LAND BEING KILLED&#8230;.. I THINK WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO MARKET ON ESTEEMED BLOGS LIKE YOURS SIR.</p>
<p>IRONY&#8230; Three ARMY men who lost their life for our Nation get their little pictures on the 4th page of The Tribune and the person who made 200 scores in an English game(cricket) gets place at the front page. The newspapers are the picture of the society, Is this what we value ?</p>
<p>WARM REGARDS<br />
THAKUR AARUNESH<br />
<a href="mailto:aarunesh@gmail.com">aarunesh@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aseem,

Read through the various comments and your replies to them albeit a little late. It seems that you kept saying that the intention of the article was to open a can of duccussion which looks at the issue from various angles. However, if you read the article posted by you initially that certainly doesnt&#039;t seem to be the motive. It says &quot;Is this our Army&quot; and then you talk about what the indian Jawans did. I would like to agree with Col JP Singh and a few other officers who have shared their thoughts. &quot;Yes&quot; this is our ARMY...where if a deed  - ethically, morally or legally defaming is comitted and there is proof of it, the miscreants are booked for it and  are even court martialled if required within the time frame that is due to such cases. That is the kind of example, that the Indian army sets for the rest of India. The fact is not that an act was committed by some people who turned out to be jawans but the fact is how was it treated by the Institution. That is what you should have written about. It is not the Indian Army&#039;s fault if some people who have committed a crime turned out to be a part of teh army and misued their powers, however if the Institution would have ignored it, or encouraged it or tried to hide it and let off those people I would have completely agreed with you. Now all you have are a few senational words with an absolutely wrong title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aseem,</p>
<p>Read through the various comments and your replies to them albeit a little late. It seems that you kept saying that the intention of the article was to open a can of duccussion which looks at the issue from various angles. However, if you read the article posted by you initially that certainly doesnt&#8217;t seem to be the motive. It says &#8220;Is this our Army&#8221; and then you talk about what the indian Jawans did. I would like to agree with Col JP Singh and a few other officers who have shared their thoughts. &#8220;Yes&#8221; this is our ARMY&#8230;where if a deed  &#8211; ethically, morally or legally defaming is comitted and there is proof of it, the miscreants are booked for it and  are even court martialled if required within the time frame that is due to such cases. That is the kind of example, that the Indian army sets for the rest of India. The fact is not that an act was committed by some people who turned out to be jawans but the fact is how was it treated by the Institution. That is what you should have written about. It is not the Indian Army&#8217;s fault if some people who have committed a crime turned out to be a part of teh army and misued their powers, however if the Institution would have ignored it, or encouraged it or tried to hide it and let off those people I would have completely agreed with you. Now all you have are a few senational words with an absolutely wrong title.</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear major dont try to so self righteous as if you are fighting for some foreign country.india is your own contry.you said that if army decides to not fight for us any more ,then let me tell you there are others who will fight for their country unlike merceneries like yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear major dont try to so self righteous as if you are fighting for some foreign country.india is your own contry.you said that if army decides to not fight for us any more ,then let me tell you there are others who will fight for their country unlike merceneries like yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex84</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regionalist Asia historians, including Pomeranz,   hold that the political economies of premodern Europe and China were   basically similar. ,</description>
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		<title>By: Very Unfortunate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Unfortunate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian Army, which once prided itself in its ethical code: “Honour, Discipline, Country”, has sunk to fresh depths of sleaze and perfidy. Faking, cheating, stealing, swindling and corruption have become a common feature of the Indian Army’s routine, which is raising alarm bells with its defense planners. The Indian Army, which has a total troop strength of around 2.5 million (1.3 million active and 1.2 million reserve) and is the second largest standing army in the world is losing its operational effectiveness. Despite its political leaders’ ambition of becoming a world power, its army, is proving to be its Achilles’ heel.

 

The cases of graft and corruption are numerous, however, some recent cases are enumerated here. An Indian arms broker who has been accused of taking kickbacks to help seal a defense deal with Israel seven years ago was arrested on tax evasion charges last week. Suresh Nanda, the son of a former Indian navy chief, one of several people accused of corruption in an 11.5 billion-rupee ($288 million) deal clinched with Israel in 2000, was arrested late Saturday, the Press Trust of India (PTI) reported. Nanda’s son, a tax accountant and an income tax official were also arrested by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) at a hotel in the financial hub Mumbai.

 

The four were arrested on charges of cooking Nanda’s account books, PTI said. Nanda was interrogated about his finances by CBI in January, which is trying to trace a money trail back to the deal to purchase seven Barak anti-ship missile systems from Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. Investigators believe Nanda received about $100,000 in kickbacks in the deal. The Barak corruption scandal is one of several dogging India’s defense procurement process. An Indian court in December ordered police to complete a probe into charges that a bribe was paid in a three-billion-dollar deal to buy Scorpene submarines from a French defense firm. That same month India said it was scrapping a $600-million deal to buy 197 military helicopters from the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) after allegations of irregularities in the bidding process.

 

A general court martial (GCM), trying two brigadiers of the Indian Army for their alleged role in a liquor scam, has held them guilty of misappropriating military intelligence funds and wrongfully taking loans from a private party. They have been awarded a severe reprimand besides loss of service for the purpose of pension. According to Indian media, Brigadier R.G. Dewekar had been awarded four-year loss of service for the purpose of fixing pension, while Brigadier R.S. Rana has been awarded three-year loss of service. Both officers were brigade commanders in an infantry division in Bareilly, whose commander, under Major-General G.I. Singh, was earlier tried and cashiered by a GCM for allegedly perpetrating the scam. Brigadier Dewekar had faced two charges under Section 52(f) of the Army Act for intent to defraud and two alternative charges under Section 63 for acts prejudicial to good order and military discipline, for allegedly diverting Military Intelligence funds and handing them to his division commander.

 

Brigadier Rana had allegedly borrowed Rs 60,000 from a private vendor, thereby violating Para 337 of the Regulations for the Army. The money was to be handed over the division commander in exchange for a cheque meant for releasing intelligence funds. Major-General G.I. Singh was commanding an infantry division in Bareilly, when the scam involving sale of large quantities of canteen liquor on the civilian market was unearthed by the military intelligence. During his trial, it was brought out that he used to issue cheques to his brigade commanders on the pretext of utilizing the funds for certain projects or for cultivating sources and gathering intelligence.

 

An alarming rise in the number of Indian military officers charged with corruption, senior ranks quitting due to frustrating service conditions and instances in which disgruntled soldiers have shot dead their seniors has started boggling the minds of India’s policy makers. For the past few decades, the Indian Army has experienced high-profile scandals, ranging from the infamous field-artillery deal with the Swedish arms company Bofors (for which former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had been accused) to the case for which another former prime minister, P.V. Narasimha Rao, was convicted in 2000. Amongst the foremost corrupt institutions within India, its armed forces retain the top position. The Indian army personnel are known to receive “commission” from politicians, bureaucrats and businessmen.

 

When their cases are forwarded to court of inquiry, they usually manage to slip away unpunished. The corruption report published in the “Times of India” speaks volumes for the state of indiscipline and corruption in the Indian Armed forces. The crime rate within the Armed Forces is comparatively high in areas where the Indian army is deployed in order to suppress insurgencies and secessionist movements like Kashmir, Nagaland, Mezoram and Assam. Incidents of suicide, self-immolation, opening fire on commanding officers and colleagues, desertions etc are frequent. The crimes are not only committed by jawans, but also the senior officers are found involved in minting money through unfair means. So much so a Brigadier of Indian army has recently been sentenced to seven years imprisonment for his involvement in running fake currency notes business. The reports have unfolded some more scandals in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK). Tanker owners in the valley have said that a scam to steal army diesel fuel involved Indian military officers and had been going on for years. The IHK Petrol Tank Owners Association says “the scam involves drivers, officers and middlemen and has cost hundreds of millions of rupees to the Government of India. It was found that diesel in seven tankers bound for Ladakh had been sold off and replaced with water. According to a report published in the “Times of India” on October 3, 2005 the Indian Armed Forces have held 6,000 courts martial since 2000, and that by any standards is a disturbing picture for the Indian Armed forces. Last year, around 30 officers were convicted in court martial proceedings.

 

Indian army’s Naib-Subedar Attar Singh was arrested recently for allegedly molesting a 26-year-old Australian tourist on board the Jaisalmer-Jodhpur Express when she had gone to use the toilet at midnight in the third AC compartment. Singh had also gone to the toilet at the same time and stopped her in the passage between the two toilets and molested her. There have been reports that jawans pushed out five people to their death from a train; a major cooked up enemy encounters in Siachen in order to win a citation for his unit; a colonel used tomato ketchup to fake killings in Assam in order to win a gallantry award. These are not just aberrations but reveal deep rooted cases of bribery and corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian Army, which once prided itself in its ethical code: “Honour, Discipline, Country”, has sunk to fresh depths of sleaze and perfidy. Faking, cheating, stealing, swindling and corruption have become a common feature of the Indian Army’s routine, which is raising alarm bells with its defense planners. The Indian Army, which has a total troop strength of around 2.5 million (1.3 million active and 1.2 million reserve) and is the second largest standing army in the world is losing its operational effectiveness. Despite its political leaders’ ambition of becoming a world power, its army, is proving to be its Achilles’ heel.</p>
<p>The cases of graft and corruption are numerous, however, some recent cases are enumerated here. An Indian arms broker who has been accused of taking kickbacks to help seal a defense deal with Israel seven years ago was arrested on tax evasion charges last week. Suresh Nanda, the son of a former Indian navy chief, one of several people accused of corruption in an 11.5 billion-rupee ($288 million) deal clinched with Israel in 2000, was arrested late Saturday, the Press Trust of India (PTI) reported. Nanda’s son, a tax accountant and an income tax official were also arrested by India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) at a hotel in the financial hub Mumbai.</p>
<p>The four were arrested on charges of cooking Nanda’s account books, PTI said. Nanda was interrogated about his finances by CBI in January, which is trying to trace a money trail back to the deal to purchase seven Barak anti-ship missile systems from Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. Investigators believe Nanda received about $100,000 in kickbacks in the deal. The Barak corruption scandal is one of several dogging India’s defense procurement process. An Indian court in December ordered police to complete a probe into charges that a bribe was paid in a three-billion-dollar deal to buy Scorpene submarines from a French defense firm. That same month India said it was scrapping a $600-million deal to buy 197 military helicopters from the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) after allegations of irregularities in the bidding process.</p>
<p>A general court martial (GCM), trying two brigadiers of the Indian Army for their alleged role in a liquor scam, has held them guilty of misappropriating military intelligence funds and wrongfully taking loans from a private party. They have been awarded a severe reprimand besides loss of service for the purpose of pension. According to Indian media, Brigadier R.G. Dewekar had been awarded four-year loss of service for the purpose of fixing pension, while Brigadier R.S. Rana has been awarded three-year loss of service. Both officers were brigade commanders in an infantry division in Bareilly, whose commander, under Major-General G.I. Singh, was earlier tried and cashiered by a GCM for allegedly perpetrating the scam. Brigadier Dewekar had faced two charges under Section 52(f) of the Army Act for intent to defraud and two alternative charges under Section 63 for acts prejudicial to good order and military discipline, for allegedly diverting Military Intelligence funds and handing them to his division commander.</p>
<p>Brigadier Rana had allegedly borrowed Rs 60,000 from a private vendor, thereby violating Para 337 of the Regulations for the Army. The money was to be handed over the division commander in exchange for a cheque meant for releasing intelligence funds. Major-General G.I. Singh was commanding an infantry division in Bareilly, when the scam involving sale of large quantities of canteen liquor on the civilian market was unearthed by the military intelligence. During his trial, it was brought out that he used to issue cheques to his brigade commanders on the pretext of utilizing the funds for certain projects or for cultivating sources and gathering intelligence.</p>
<p>An alarming rise in the number of Indian military officers charged with corruption, senior ranks quitting due to frustrating service conditions and instances in which disgruntled soldiers have shot dead their seniors has started boggling the minds of India’s policy makers. For the past few decades, the Indian Army has experienced high-profile scandals, ranging from the infamous field-artillery deal with the Swedish arms company Bofors (for which former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had been accused) to the case for which another former prime minister, P.V. Narasimha Rao, was convicted in 2000. Amongst the foremost corrupt institutions within India, its armed forces retain the top position. The Indian army personnel are known to receive “commission” from politicians, bureaucrats and businessmen.</p>
<p>When their cases are forwarded to court of inquiry, they usually manage to slip away unpunished. The corruption report published in the “Times of India” speaks volumes for the state of indiscipline and corruption in the Indian Armed forces. The crime rate within the Armed Forces is comparatively high in areas where the Indian army is deployed in order to suppress insurgencies and secessionist movements like Kashmir, Nagaland, Mezoram and Assam. Incidents of suicide, self-immolation, opening fire on commanding officers and colleagues, desertions etc are frequent. The crimes are not only committed by jawans, but also the senior officers are found involved in minting money through unfair means. So much so a Brigadier of Indian army has recently been sentenced to seven years imprisonment for his involvement in running fake currency notes business. The reports have unfolded some more scandals in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK). Tanker owners in the valley have said that a scam to steal army diesel fuel involved Indian military officers and had been going on for years. The IHK Petrol Tank Owners Association says “the scam involves drivers, officers and middlemen and has cost hundreds of millions of rupees to the Government of India. It was found that diesel in seven tankers bound for Ladakh had been sold off and replaced with water. According to a report published in the “Times of India” on October 3, 2005 the Indian Armed Forces have held 6,000 courts martial since 2000, and that by any standards is a disturbing picture for the Indian Armed forces. Last year, around 30 officers were convicted in court martial proceedings.</p>
<p>Indian army’s Naib-Subedar Attar Singh was arrested recently for allegedly molesting a 26-year-old Australian tourist on board the Jaisalmer-Jodhpur Express when she had gone to use the toilet at midnight in the third AC compartment. Singh had also gone to the toilet at the same time and stopped her in the passage between the two toilets and molested her. There have been reports that jawans pushed out five people to their death from a train; a major cooked up enemy encounters in Siachen in order to win a citation for his unit; a colonel used tomato ketchup to fake killings in Assam in order to win a gallantry award. These are not just aberrations but reveal deep rooted cases of bribery and corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: spring</title>
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		<dc:creator>spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All i wud like to say is that no army wud like to take law in their own hands. 
Having said that  I wud like to make a few points :-
   firstly, army has definitely taken action against these soldiers and officers. i hav yet to come across any other organisation in our country 
which acts so swiftly against indiscipline or acts at all.
  secondly, the army guys  knew that they wud not be spared by the army authorities for doin this. Inspite of this knowledge they attacked the 
policemen. Yet they were willing to sacrifice their careers or at the least disciplinary action which by no means is less ruthless than the nazies...
well it only speaaks volumes of their camaraderie....to pick up a fight for the sake of your colleague or superior....how many in the corporate 
world wud do this?
 thirdly, I wud never advocate the path which the army unit took whatever the provocation.
However, I wud like to invite views from people on the following situation.
   You have policemen arresting army officers on false charges and putting them behind the bars which is actually forbidden by the law.
  The men of the unit get to know of this as also the record and high-handedness of our police needs no elaboration. 
They hav served with the same officers through thick and thin, in glaciers and rajasthan, vowed together to give up their lives for each other and 
the country. 
What shud hav been their reaction? It was only human. Only their way of fighting for justice was not correct. 
Perhaps, they shud have waited for their officers to be insulted. Run around for seeking their release when the courts wud have opened. 
Then, possibly for lack of evidence the officers wud have been acquited. The police wud anyway have achieved their aim of showing who is the
 boss. Definitely no action wud have been taken against the policemen.(You dont need to be a wizard to contrast it with the action the army would 
have taken if an SP of police would have been ill treated by two high handed jawans in any part of the country). Anyway,The officers wud return to their 
unit shattered and humiliated for no fault of theirs. After a few days the unit wud again hav gone back to 
some border to fight another war. But, the men wud never have been able to look their officer in the eye. The officer wud have lost faith in his 
men and we as a nation wud have told the army to go n fight n die on the border with aggression and pride..coz u r supposed to protect us....so 
what if we only crushed that aggression  n pride........nevertheless.....i still do not defend  the action of the army....i only advise them that kindly 
do not give up hope ...please bear with the insults that our nation bears on you. Coz u r our only hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All i wud like to say is that no army wud like to take law in their own hands.<br />
Having said that  I wud like to make a few points :-<br />
   firstly, army has definitely taken action against these soldiers and officers. i hav yet to come across any other organisation in our country<br />
which acts so swiftly against indiscipline or acts at all.<br />
  secondly, the army guys  knew that they wud not be spared by the army authorities for doin this. Inspite of this knowledge they attacked the<br />
policemen. Yet they were willing to sacrifice their careers or at the least disciplinary action which by no means is less ruthless than the nazies&#8230;<br />
well it only speaaks volumes of their camaraderie&#8230;.to pick up a fight for the sake of your colleague or superior&#8230;.how many in the corporate<br />
world wud do this?<br />
 thirdly, I wud never advocate the path which the army unit took whatever the provocation.<br />
However, I wud like to invite views from people on the following situation.<br />
   You have policemen arresting army officers on false charges and putting them behind the bars which is actually forbidden by the law.<br />
  The men of the unit get to know of this as also the record and high-handedness of our police needs no elaboration.<br />
They hav served with the same officers through thick and thin, in glaciers and rajasthan, vowed together to give up their lives for each other and<br />
the country.<br />
What shud hav been their reaction? It was only human. Only their way of fighting for justice was not correct.<br />
Perhaps, they shud have waited for their officers to be insulted. Run around for seeking their release when the courts wud have opened.<br />
Then, possibly for lack of evidence the officers wud have been acquited. The police wud anyway have achieved their aim of showing who is the<br />
 boss. Definitely no action wud have been taken against the policemen.(You dont need to be a wizard to contrast it with the action the army would<br />
have taken if an SP of police would have been ill treated by two high handed jawans in any part of the country). Anyway,The officers wud return to their<br />
unit shattered and humiliated for no fault of theirs. After a few days the unit wud again hav gone back to<br />
some border to fight another war. But, the men wud never have been able to look their officer in the eye. The officer wud have lost faith in his<br />
men and we as a nation wud have told the army to go n fight n die on the border with aggression and pride..coz u r supposed to protect us&#8230;.so<br />
what if we only crushed that aggression  n pride&#8230;&#8230;..nevertheless&#8230;..i still do not defend  the action of the army&#8230;.i only advise them that kindly<br />
do not give up hope &#8230;please bear with the insults that our nation bears on you. Coz u r our only hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an army which has a strength of more than the population of some countries incidents will happen. 
Because we have issues in our country do we start saying India is bad no because India was and always will be the best.
Similarly I have served with the foreign army contingents also and let me assure you 
When preoblems arise they look at rules and regulations and the Indian army soldier when told to hold his post he will irrespective of the fact that he knows that it might cause personal harm to him even to the extent of causing death he will do it...............
this is discipline
We are not amongst the best but THE BEST.

woh kuch to hai ki hasti mitt ti nahin hamari,
Yunan mishra roman mit gaye is jaahan se 
Sare jahan se accha hinduatan hamara

Jai Hind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an army which has a strength of more than the population of some countries incidents will happen.<br />
Because we have issues in our country do we start saying India is bad no because India was and always will be the best.<br />
Similarly I have served with the foreign army contingents also and let me assure you<br />
When preoblems arise they look at rules and regulations and the Indian army soldier when told to hold his post he will irrespective of the fact that he knows that it might cause personal harm to him even to the extent of causing death he will do it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
this is discipline<br />
We are not amongst the best but THE BEST.</p>
<p>woh kuch to hai ki hasti mitt ti nahin hamari,<br />
Yunan mishra roman mit gaye is jaahan se<br />
Sare jahan se accha hinduatan hamara</p>
<p>Jai Hind</p>
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